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http://espn.go.com/espn/playbook/st...ing-control-coaches-players-worse-blown-calls

Last week, TMQ hammered Greg Schiano for having his defense charge the offense on a final-snap kneel-down at the end of the Giants-Bucs game. Schiano has since defended himself by claiming this tactic actually works. Here, Schiano told "Mike & Mike in the Morning" that charging the victory formation "caused fumbles several times" at Rutgers. Schiano told Pro Football Talk the tactic "actually created a fumbled C-Q exchange four times in the past four or five years. It does work."


Schiano did not add: Rutgers never got a turnover. I asked Jason Baum, associate athletic director of Rutgers, what happened when the Scarlet Knights attacked kneel-downs under Schiano. Baum said that four times the quarterback fumbled -- against North Carolina in 2011, against Pitt and West Virginia in 2009 and against Cincinnati in 2007. Rutgers recovered once, but the play was nullified by a Rutgers offside. Any defense can cause the quarterback to fumble by jumping offside and slapping the ball before the snap! The other three times, quarterbacks covered their own fumbles.


Thus Rutgers never got possession by attacking a victory formation. The tactic did not "work," as Schiano claims -- unless the point was to show that Schiano is a bully. For Schiano to say his tactic "caused fumbles several times," not adding that Rutgers never got the ball, is a classic Nixonian statement -- literally true, but intended to deceive.
 
http://espn.go.com/espn/playbook/st...ing-control-coaches-players-worse-blown-calls

Last week, TMQ hammered Greg Schiano for having his defense charge the offense on a final-snap kneel-down at the end of the Giants-Bucs game. Schiano has since defended himself by claiming this tactic actually works. Here, Schiano told "Mike & Mike in the Morning" that charging the victory formation "caused fumbles several times" at Rutgers. Schiano told Pro Football Talk the tactic "actually created a fumbled C-Q exchange four times in the past four or five years. It does work."


Schiano did not add: Rutgers never got a turnover. I asked Jason Baum, associate athletic director of Rutgers, what happened when the Scarlet Knights attacked kneel-downs under Schiano. Baum said that four times the quarterback fumbled -- against North Carolina in 2011, against Pitt and West Virginia in 2009 and against Cincinnati in 2007. Rutgers recovered once, but the play was nullified by a Rutgers offside. Any defense can cause the quarterback to fumble by jumping offside and slapping the ball before the snap! The other three times, quarterbacks covered their own fumbles.


Thus Rutgers never got possession by attacking a victory formation. The tactic did not "work," as Schiano claims -- unless the point was to show that Schiano is a bully. For Schiano to say his tactic "caused fumbles several times," not adding that Rutgers never got the ball, is a classic Nixonian statement -- literally true, but intended to deceive.
It says alot about how much Schiano sucks that he has so much history defending victory formations. Hopefully teams figure out away to not get hurt at the end of the season when they have tape of the 14 times schiano faced a victory formation
 
It says alot about how much Schiano sucks that he has so much history defending victory formations. Hopefully teams figure out away to not get hurt at the end of the season when they have tape of the 14 times schiano faced a victory formation
Similiar to how Reggie Theus once called Clippers GM Elgin Baylor a "veteran of the lottery process", Schiano can become the acknowledged master of defending the Victory Formation.
 
It says alot about how much Schiano sucks that he has so much history defending victory formations. Hopefully teams figure out away to not get hurt at the end of the season when they have tape of the 14 times schiano faced a victory formation

"It worked all the time at Rutgers"

"Coach, are you saying you lost all the time at Rutgers?"

"Well, wait, what did I say?"

Have fun Tampa.
 
I want just 1 time for a QB in the victory formation to pull back and throw one over the top to a WR for a TD.

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I want just 1 time for a QB in the victory formation to pull back and throw one over the top to a WR for a TD.

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You and the rest of the world who are not TB/Rutgers fans. I would pay good money to see that.
 
It says alot about how much Schiano sucks that he has so much history defending victory formations. Hopefully teams figure out away to not get hurt at the end of the season when they have tape of the 14 times schiano faced a victory formation

This is classic. Awesome.

I know how to defend the victory formation better than any coach alive...
 
I want just 1 time for a QB in the victory formation to pull back and throw one over the top to a WR for a TD.
I'd prefer he drill it into Schiano's face.
 

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