OT: ND Pondering To Leave Hockey East

[TexanMark]

H/TL NoDak
http://www.csnbbs.com/thread-726431.html

Wish TGD would make a call and say...hold that spot. Retrofit Manley Field House.

Just a thought.

 

[Scooch]

I don't see anyway SU could possibly go from no varsity team to landing in Hockey East.

That'd be like Marquette starting a football team and being invited into the B1G.

Selfishly if ND left and was replaced by Quinnipiac I'd be psyched. My kid goes to QU's summer hockey camp, their arena is a great place to watch games, and it's 25 minutes from my house.

 

[longtimefan]

I don't see anyway SU could possibly go from no varsity team to landing in Hockey East.

That'd be like Marquette starting a football team and being invited into the B1G.

Selfishly if ND left and was replaced by Quinnipiac I'd be psyched. My kid goes to QU's summer hockey camp, their arena is a great place to watch games, and it's 25 minutes from my house.

There's a mention in the ND thread of URI go from scratch to Hockey East.

Of course, the league and its members would have to agree to that.

 

[DownTheField]

I don't see anyway SU could possibly go from no varsity team to landing in Hockey East.

That'd be like Marquette starting a football team and being invited into the B1G.

Selfishly if ND left and was replaced by Quinnipiac I'd be psyched. My kid goes to QU's summer hockey camp, their arena is a great place to watch games, and it's 25 minutes from my house.

That would be perfect. SU could start a D-1 team and take their spot in the ECAC.

 

[HeaterCuse22]

I don't see anyway SU could possibly go from no varsity team to landing in Hockey East.

That'd be like Marquette starting a football team and being invited into the B1G.

Selfishly if ND left and was replaced by Quinnipiac I'd be psyched. My kid goes to QU's summer hockey camp, their arena is a great place to watch games, and it's 25 minutes from my house.

Not exactly true, there is precedence. Niagara went from a club team to D1 after a short(ish) ramp up time in the mid to late 90's. Side note they recruited me to play there and I turned them down as I didn't think they would make it D1. Turns out I went D3, hurt my knee and was out anyways. Should have taken the risky opportunity. Life lesson for sure.

 

[TerryD]

ND is not doing so badly in Hockey East:

GP W-L-T PTS GF-GA GP W-L-T GF-GA
1 Boston University 16 12-2-2 26 64-36 26 18-4-4 96-56
2 Boston College 17 10-5-2 22 47-37 28 17-9-2 84-65
3 Mass.-Lowell 18 9-7-2 20 55-46 29 16-10-3 96-78
4 Providence 16 9-6-1 19 44-25 28 17-9-2 83-57
5 Notre Dame 16 7-5-4 18 52-44 30 12-14-4 91-86
6 Vermont 16 8-7-1 17 49-38 28 16-10-2 81-59
7 Northeastern 16 7-7-2 16 39-47 27 12-11-4 70-76
8 Connecticut 16 5-7-4 14 34-50 28 8-13-7 56-80
9 Maine 16 5-9-2 12 41-49 30 10-17-3 77-93
Merrimack 15 5-8-2 12 30-37 27 14-10-3 66-60
11 New Hampshire 16 5-10-1 11 43-56 28 10-16-2 83-87
12 Massachusetts 18 4-13-1 9 54-87 28 9-18-1 84-119


I wouldn't get too excited about this.

This BC blog picked up on an ND student newspaper article.

Every other outlet is reporting basically the same thing from the original ND article in the Observer.


http://ndsmcobserver.com/2015/01/carson-...ckey-east/


No real problems here I think other than some normal grousing.



ND got a national TV hockey deal with NBC Sports out of the realignment to Hockey East. The move also fits in well with the move of the basketball and Olympic programs to the ACC.

This was a student author's opinion piece with two things in it said by Jackson.

Maybe I am wrong, but I doubt Jack Swarbrick is going to move ND hockey anywhere, especially with NBC Sports paying to televise every ND home hockey game.

 

[javadoc]

H/TL NoDak
http://www.csnbbs.com/thread-726431.html

Wish TGD would make a call and say...hold that spot. Retrofit Manley Field House.

Just a thought.

Until the kvetching over AD finances ceases, I do not see any way that another men's non-revenue sport could be added, along with the women's sports that would be needed to toe the Title IX line.

 

[upperdeck]

i wonder what the real cost of a div 1 hockey team is? I think the bigger issue is the matching cost of another 18 scholie for the womens side..

the men if they could draw 3k would generate a million or so. many div 1 teams make money so its not a money loser like womens teams.

 

[Full_Rebar]

SU has no arena right now. Not sure how much it would cost to retrofit Manley, but that would also mean building a new Olympic team weight room, since they are located in the arena now. It would also displace the track team (again).

It would have been such a smart idea to put a 3 or 4 lane track inside the IPF. That would have meant no outdoor track would have been needed and would have opened Manley to be turned back into an arena for w. hoops, or to be a possible rink.

SU really needs some long-range planning to occur instead of these band-aid fixes which don't have a long shelf life.

 

[SU2NASA]

I don't see anyway SU could possibly go from no varsity team to landing in Hockey East.

That'd be like Marquette starting a football team and being invited into the B1G.

Selfishly if ND left and was replaced by Quinnipiac I'd be psyched. My kid goes to QU's summer hockey camp, their arena is a great place to watch games, and it's 25 minutes from my house.

When I did the proposal to take the men's team in D-1 in 1998, Hockey East was interested.

 

[SU2NASA]

SU has no arena right now. Not sure how much it would cost to retrofit Manley, but that would also mean building a new Olympic team weight room, since they are located in the arena now. It would also displace the track team (again).

It would have been such a smart idea to put a 3 or 4 lane track inside the IPF. That would have meant no outdoor track would have been needed and would have opened Manley to be turned back into an arena for w. hoops, or to be a possible rink.

SU really needs some long-range planning to occur instead of these band-aid fixes which don't have a long shelf life.

Tenley can be retrofitted to accommodate meeting the NCAA D-1 capacity requirement (1,500), much like Niagara's rink was (seats 2,100 now).

 

[SU2NASA]

Not exactly true, there is precedence. Niagara went from a club team to D1 after a short(ish) ramp up time in the mid to late 90's. Side note they recruited me to play there and I turned them down as I didn't think they would make it D1. Turns out I went D3, hurt my knee and was out anyways. Should have taken the risky opportunity. Life lesson for sure.

I was going to go to Alabama-Huntsville before I decided to go to SU and play for the men's team. Would have gone a year to play USHL and then go to UAH. Going to SU was a no-brainer and the best decision I could have made.

 

[cpatrocks]

I'd rather see SU field a Baseball team first.

 

[IHeartSUFball]

Look below

 

[IHeartSUFball]

Be awesome have a team but crunch live are great entertainment too and need everyone's support

 

[Scooch]

When I did the proposal to take the men's team in D-1 in 1998, Hockey East was interested.

I'm sure they were. And I think HE would still be interested in SU. Just think it's unlikely we'd go from nothing straight to HE. We'd need to build the program first, for at least a few years.

 

[TerryD]

http://www.pressherald.com/2015/02/06/th...ge-hockey/


http://www.collegehockeynews.com/news/20...anding.php

 

[Scooch]

Not exactly true, there is precedence. Niagara went from a club team to D1 after a short(ish) ramp up time in the mid to late 90's. Side note they recruited me to play there and I turned them down as I didn't think they would make it D1. Turns out I went D3, hurt my knee and was out anyways. Should have taken the risky opportunity. Life lesson for sure.

I'm not talking about going from club to D1. I'm talking about going from club to the premiere conference in the sport from day one. That's what Mark suggested and I think that's highly unlikely.

 

[milerock]

There is another alternative...

http://www.tigernet.com/update/player/Clemson-hockey-wins-ACC-South-Division-18692

The Clemson Hockey Club team beat Georgia Tech 3-2 on Sunday to capture the ACC South Hockey Challenge in the American Collegiate Hockey Association.

The Tigers also beat Florida State (Friday night), Life University (Saturday morning) to make it 3-0 for the weekend.

Clemson plays their home games at the Pavilion in Taylors, S.C.

 

[milerock]

And just in case you were wondering...

Life University is a private university in the Atlanta suburb of Marietta, Georgia that offers a number of undergraduate programs. Life University is best known for its doctoral degree program in chiropractic.

 

[SU2NASA]

There is another alternative...

http://www.tigernet.com/update/player/Clemson-hockey-wins-ACC-South-Division-18692

The Clemson Hockey Club team beat Georgia Tech 3-2 on Sunday to capture the ACC South Hockey Challenge in the American Collegiate Hockey Association.

The Tigers also beat Florida State (Friday night), Life University (Saturday morning) to make it 3-0 for the weekend.

Clemson plays their home games at the Pavilion in Taylors, S.C.

The ACCHL has UNC, NC State, Wake, Duke, and UVa.

 

[SU2NASA]

http://achahockey.org/view/achahockey/acha-hockey-news/news_278776

The SU men currently rank #20 in the ACHA D-1 rankings.

 

[SU2NASA]

I'm not talking about going from club to D1. I'm talking about going from club to the premiere conference in the sport from day one. That's what Mark suggested and I think that's highly unlikely.

The roadmap is going independent your first two years then joining HE.

 

[NJCuse97]

SU has no arena right now. Not sure how much it would cost to retrofit Manley, but that would also mean building a new Olympic team weight room, since they are located in the arena now. It would also displace the track team (again).

It would have been such a smart idea to put a 3 or 4 lane track inside the IPF. That would have meant no outdoor track would have been needed and would have opened Manley to be turned back into an arena for w. hoops, or to be a possible rink.

SU really needs some long-range planning to occur instead of these band-aid fixes which don't have a long shelf life.

While I agree that a better long range plan should be put in place (there actually is one currently) I will tell you that SU has a proposal out now for a new Olympic weight room.

The long range plan I have heard about is to infill the space between IPF and Manley (Coyne Field). Not sure about a real solution for indoor track.

I don't see Manley being converted to hockey. They would use the facility up on Skytop or the War Memorial first.

 

[Scooch]

The roadmap is going independent your first two years then joining HE.

Gotcha.

I don't see ND leaving HE anyway, so I imagine this whole thread is pointless.

I have grown to really enjoy college hockey though. I go to both Quinnipiac and Yale games by me and they're a good time.