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Message: [QUOTE="Sudano, post: 1526388, member: 822"] Let's not confuse effort with results. People who are doing a good job then get poor results don't get to keep their jobs for long. I want Schafer to succeed I really do. But his teams are just getting bulldozed in the second half leading to losses. You can hang your hat on all the positives you want and there are some. At the end of the day his teams need more talent and need to play better to win in the ACC. So instead of playing the strawman game of Ollison vs Fredericks... I contend we need both and more top NYS talent to start winning games. If we can't get top talent from NY why are we spending more on recruiting to travel to LA to recruit a 5-9 QB. Its basic marketing. Proximity is important in recruiting. No successful program can't keep their state's top players close to home. We need to start at home. [/QUOTE]