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Message: [QUOTE="721Comstock, post: 1525358, member: 5429"] There's hazing, and then there's hazing. Some of it (from what I heard happened at other houses) was just idiotic and degrading. What went on at the fraternity I was in, was more about developing unity amongst the pledge class, and the brotherhood. Honestly, I enjoyed most of it. And yes - there was drinking. A lot of drinking. But - that's college, too. Or was - dunno if it's like that anymore. And in my house, if a pledge couldn't drink anymore, that was fine - his classmates would pick it up for him. I pledged as a 2nd semester soph. Did 2 years in SUMB, and those first 2 years in the dorms (Lawrinson). Made a lot of good friends in both, but not to the same depth as some of the guys from my house - particularly my pledge class. I loved living in the house my last 2 years. The Fraternity experience MADE my SU experience - I wouldn't trade it for anything. YMMV. [/QUOTE]