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Message: [QUOTE="Idiocuse22&, post: 5305092, member: 9309"] Absolutely, winning 6-8 games would basically be limping into a bowl. Clearly 6-7 wins would be. Expecting anything less than a chance at making the playoffs is a losers attitude and negative. Ive never played a sport expecting to lose a game going in. I have very rarely been a fan of a team expecting them to lose any game beforehand. Last time I did...we won. Against all odds, I believe...Im a fanatic. Realism cannot occupy space in a die hard fans sense of beliefs. If it does you may be a 'real' fan but not die hard. Expecting to lose 4-6 games next season is pathetic. It is offending to me...I would have been offended going into 2007. If an "expert" predicted a 6-6 season next year we would call him an idiot that didnt do any research. [/QUOTE]