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Message: [QUOTE="cuseinchina, post: 792830, member: 3079"] So you are saying some people are lazy, stupid, and that some of those on the dole enjoy it and don't use the funds wisely. You will get no argument on that from me. The difference is you live in a place where the lower class speaks Spanish. I spend my summers and most weekends in rural Maine and I see many fat white slobs who are perhaps speaking english but vant string a sentence together who take the foid stamp card to their buddy at the local store and bring home coffee brandy, cigarettes, and cheese puffs to the wife and kids. They then watch porn or NASCAR on their 60" samsungs and get drunk planning the next days outings on their multiple $10k four wheelers, dirt bikes, or snowmobiles. Now most lower income people in Maine are some of the nicest hardest working people you will ever meet. They work three jobs, most of them seasonal to make enough to get their kids some decent clothes and to allow them to grow up in a place that is still beautiful and fundamentally good. They work on lobster boats, dig clams, house sit for the rich people from out of state, work in boat yards etc. they are poor but they are proud and happy. And you can dam well bet they feel shame and frustration when February comes and the heating bill was higher than they expected and they need to turn to food stamps for a couple months to feed their family before work picks up again. For every one of the first type there are ten of the second. We notice the first because they are conspicuous on their itresponsibility. So if we aren't careful and don't look a little deeper we can get the whole group wrong based on a few bad but blatant examples. since immigration is a large net positive for the country hands down across the board, and since illegals cant get food stamps anyway, I think really what you want to do is improve the welfare system to make sure people are being responsible and putting in a good faith effort to do the right things. I am fine with that, so long as you treat these people with the respect and understanding that so many of them deserve. But someone has made you angry about immigration and your anger is misplaced. [/QUOTE]

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