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[QUOTE="MonsterGame, post: 1038131, member: 1256"]
Before I read your 3rd paragraph, I was thinking, "Seems like your describing a proto-type shooting guard, not a point guard."  And no sooner had I thought that then you imply Payton had 2 guard qualities as well.  Maybe Payton played out of position and clearly Stockton is the better PG.

I like Karl Malone, I really do, but if he'd have played with Payton his entire career instead of Stockton, I think his point total would be a fair amount lower.  (Stockton and Malone fit like a hand in a glove running the two-man game and on pick and rolls.  Payton did not have the shooting prowess necessary to keep defenders honest and bring out the best in Malone and vice versa.)  Not to mention, there wasn't much else of offensive value on those Utah teams.  Who's to say that Payton didn't have overall better talent on his teams but couldn't utilize it fully?

If you asked me who the better PG is, Stockton, Kobe or Payton.  I'd say Stockton.  Your attempt to trap me by confusing the issue at hand about who is positionally better has failed. ;)  I will add this, when the Lakers do well, it's generally because Kobe isn't taking over the game, but that the whole team gets involved and Kobe facilitates more.  When Kobe takes over, the Lakers tend to lose.  This isn't some amazing revelation, I've heard many NBA analysts state the same thing.
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