OT - UCONN Women

[chugg21]

Was just reading a 538 article about Breanna Stewart and read that Geno's crew is 118-1 in their last 119 games with all 118 wins coming by double-digits. That just blew my mind and figured I'd throw it out there. Not sure how its possible to be more dominant than that besides erasing that -1 part. Pretty interested in seeing the local gal go 4 for 4 with 4 Final Four MVPs, just an incredible career.

 

[Marsh01]

 

[Brooky03]

What's UConn?

 

[cto]

Please Note: UConn does not have teams in both the men's and women's Sweet 16s this year. That honor belongs to only SU and Notre Dame.

I will trade the UConn women's record ... for being in the men's Sweet 16 (and ... hopefully more).

 

[JarHeadJim]

 

[dasher]

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Good point as always. I also agree.

 

[JarHeadJim]

 

[dasher]

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One night with me, and they would be rooting for the Orange.

 

[Alsacs]

Women's basketball is improving but goodness it needs more parity. I don't think if you took an-All American team of non-UConn players it could beat UConn in a best of 7 series.

The gap between top team and the rest of the field is just so large.

Even the USA men's basketball team could lose to other countries. UConn winning all these games is impressive but just shows how UConn probably has the top 3 players in the nation and they all stay 4 years.

In the 1980's Anthony Davis would a rookie in the NBA this year or at worst a 2nd year player. Now Anthony Davis is in his 4th year in the NBA.

 

[MGP]

Women's basketball is improving but goodness it needs my parity. I don't think if you took an-All American team of non-UConn players it could beat UConn in a best of 7 series.

The gap between top team and the rest of the field is just so large.

Even the USA men's basketball team could lose to other countries. UConn winning all these games is impressive but just shows how UConn probably has the top 3 players in the nation and they all stay 4 years.

In the 1980's Anthony Davis would a rookie in the NBA this year or at worst a 2nd year player. Now Anthony Davis in in his 4th year in the NBA.

No other sport could #1 play #2 and win by 30...Oh Lord

 

[HOFCeluck]

Women's basketball is improving but goodness it needs more parity. I don't think if you took an-All American team of non-UConn players it could beat UConn in a best of 7 series.

The gap between top team and the rest of the field is just so large.

Even the USA men's basketball team could lose to other countries. UConn winning all these games is impressive but just shows how UConn probably has the top 3 players in the nation and they all stay 4 years.

In the 1980's Anthony Davis would a rookie in the NBA this year or at worst a 2nd year player. Now Anthony Davis is in his 4th year in the NBA.

The funny thing is that while it's true that there's zero parity in the women's game, there's actually been a 1/16 upset in the women's tourney.

 

[UnderHisOwnPower]

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now that's a woman's team we should be talking more about.

 

[two3zone]

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Why don't we ever get this talent in the Cuse?

 

[Alsacs]

The funny thing is that while it's true that there's zero parity in the women's game, there's actually been a 1/16 upset in the women's tourney.

My cousin was on that Harvard team. I can't remember if it was 1998 or 1999. As she played on Harvard from 1997-2000.

 

[MSOrange]

As fun as the Syracuse women have been this year, UConn's domination does kind of ruin it a little bit knowing that realistically there is a ceiling to how far we can go, barring a miracle. The top women's teams just are so far ahead of the rest of the field.

 

[dasher]

Women's basketball is improving but goodness it needs more parity. I don't think if you took an-All American team of non-UConn players it could beat UConn in a best of 7 series.

The gap between top team and the rest of the field is just so large.

Even the USA men's basketball team could lose to other countries. UConn winning all these games is impressive but just shows how UConn probably has the top 3 players in the nation and they all stay 4 years.

In the 1980's Anthony Davis would a rookie in the NBA this year or at worst a 2nd year player. Now Anthony Davis is in his 4th year in the NBA.

If they want aprity, they have to cut back on ships. No way can UConn get 15. Just like they did to UCLA back in the day.

 

[kirbivore]

As fun as the Syracuse women have been this year, UConn's domination does kind of ruin it a little bit knowing that realistically there is a ceiling to how far we can go, barring a miracle. The top women's teams just are so far ahead of the rest of the field.

someone beating storz this year would be equivalent of Team USA's 1980 hockey victory over the soviets.

 

[HoustonCuse]

The funny thing is that while it's true that there's zero parity in the women's game, there's actually been a 1/16 upset in the women's tourney.

Women's college basketball is basically an exhibition sport. It is not competitive. Only 2 or 3 schools try at all. So yeah the fourth #1 seed and a 16 seed are probably roughly equivalent, but from the 4th #1 seed to the overall #1 is Mt. Everest.

 

[Alsacs]

Schools try the problem is that the difference between the top 5 recruits and top 30 recruits is huge.

In the men's game you can have a team of bunch of top 100 players and they can upset a team with more top 10 guys.

Like Wisconsin last year vs. Kentucky. Kentucky had a team of all top tier recruits and Wisconsin had a talented team but it was more experienced as well and Wisconsin beat Kentucky.

In women's basketball there is no Wisconsin type team that could beat UConn because UConn is Kentucky mixed with Wisconsin because all their players stay 4 years and they get the top kids every year.

If the top 3 players in NCAA basketball are all on 1 team for multiple years and they just significantly better than the kids below them nobody else can compete.

That is the problem. The women's game needs their recruits ranked outside of the top 10 become good enough to beat the kids ranked higher. If all it takes is talent then the UConn type teams will never lose.

 

[shandeezy7]

One night with me, and they would be rooting for the Orange.

Or you'd be wearing orange...

 

[OrlandoCuse]

Women's basketball is borderline unwatchable. It reminds me of watching Junior High boys basketball.

 

[Cheriehoop]

If there was a real market for college women in the WNBA like there is in mens college ball, how many of the UConn women would be there for 4 years? Any doubt that Breanna Stewart etc would have been one and done? Last year, Kentucky men was a team made up mainly of freshman against Wisconsin, a team mostly comprised of upperclassmen. The men are doing the same at Kentucky currently but because of the NBA draft, other more experienced teams not made up of top freshman recruits can still beat them while getting top media attention.It's a totally different world, the best recruits for women go to UConn (like UCLA in the men's game 50 years ago) and they stay 4 all four years.

Until the top recruits decide to select universities thinking they alone with a good coach can be a difference maker in getting a championship and recognition instead of needing an entire team of top recruits to be by their side to get it,they will continue to group together at a UConn. When Pat Summit retired, all the attention went to just one single team, UConn. Baylor, Stanford, Notre Dame etc have all been consistent top competitors putting money and emphasis on their womens' teams but what fans can name their coaches or top players from there? The media gives minimal coverage. How many SU fans can even name the women's SU starters? UConn fans care and take pride in their team, the rest of the country - meh- so the results shouldn't be surprising. Below is the link for the history of womens championships.

http://www.ncaa.com/history/basketball-women/d1

 

[Alsacs]

If there was a real market for college women in the WNBA like there is in mens college ball, how many of the UConn women would be there for 4 years? Any doubt that Breanna Stewart etc would have been one and done? Last year, Kentucky men was a team made up mainly of freshman against Wisconsin, a team mostly comprised of upperclassmen. The men are doing the same at Kentucky currently but because of the NBA draft, other more experienced teams not made up of top freshman recruits can still beat them while getting top media attention.It's a totally different world, the best recruits for women go to UConn (like UCLA in the men's game 50 years ago) and they stay 4 all four years.

Until the top recruits decide to select universities thinking they alone with a good coach can be a difference maker in getting a championship and recognition instead of needing an entire team of top recruits to be by their side to get it,they will continue to group together at a UConn. When Pat Summit retired, all the attention went to just one single team, UConn. Baylor, Stanford, Notre Dame etc have all been consistent top competitors putting money and emphasis on their womens' teams but what fans can name their coaches or top players from there? The media gives minimal coverage. How many SU fans can even name the women's SU starters? UConn fans care and take pride in their team, the rest of the country - meh- so the results shouldn't be surprising. Below is the link for the history of womens championships.

http://www.ncaa.com/history/basketball-women/d1

I can name the top programs but don't know the players. UConn, Notre Dame, Baylor, Maryland, Tennessee/LSU/La. Tech historically.

Now I have a question maybe you can answer if you don't mind. Is all the talent centralized in the top teams and is their enough talent that could sustain more parity if it spread out. I ask because just say you divided UConn up I still think the title comes from Notre Dame or South Carolina.

I think the women's game is improving as a whole with more attention but is there a difference in recruits ranked 1-10 than from 30-50?

I ask because if you recruited a team of top 100 talent kids in the men's game it could beat a team of top 10-20 talent kids in a one game scenario. Is the same possible in the women's game yet?

 

[NYCSUGrad]

Women's basketball is borderline unwatchable. It reminds me of watching Junior High boys basketball.

I've been enjoying the Orange women play. Their use of the press makes their games highly watchable. Furthermore, the top teams generally play up to a much higher level than they did even 5 years ago. UConn is on a whole other level, which is why I don't even watch those games, because they dominate so, for reasons others here have enumerated.

Besides, I think many posters would agree the mens' game has gone down somewhat recently. Yes, there is parity in the tourney more than ever. But there is a lot of sloppy play too, compared to the NBA. The bad refereeing does not help matters either.

 

[AlaskaSU]

There are not enough skilled women to go around and that is not likely to change. The best players are so few in number that it is easy for them to gravitate to one team. It is a rare woman that has leaping ability.