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Message: [QUOTE="reedny, post: 1398716, member: 1423"] I'm not trying to shill for an academic career, or put on airs here. I'm pointing out that an approach to education that you and TH seem to dismiss -- traditional brick and mortar undergraduate studies in liberal arts -- is not out of date and remains, statistically, one of the most successful ways to [B]learn[/B] at the undergraduate level (the cited articles explain). Obviously, a LA's degree is not for everyone -- those majoring in English literature, psychology or philosophy are usually headed to graduate school (where they will find their background a surprising advantage). But to argue, as TH did, that a LA, on-campus education is somehow inferior, or that the SUNY curricula should be narrowed to vocational training or converted to a for-profit/online system like U of Phoenix, is ludicrous. [/QUOTE]