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Message: [QUOTE="dinosaurbbq, post: 1231605, member: 1333"] Win? j/k. Let's compete with the ACC as you suggest. How many ACC schools don't have IPFs? We are working on it but don't have one yet. We are near last in getting one. The article I attached states that SU is far outpaced in facilities even within the ACC. I haven't been to lots of ACC facilities to know and have taken their word for it, but if they are right, then the only thing we are disputing is how much an effect that failure to invest in facilities has. [/QUOTE]