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Message: [QUOTE="Crusty, post: 4778927, member: 2265"] Couple of points. First, it is hard to find hard and fast rules when it comes to penalties. There are so many variables that the data does suggest any single reason. The coaching correlation is not readily apparent. However, the service academy culture of discipline is a constant. All three academies are among the best every year. I used to get upset with Marrone's teams' penalties but after looking at the data I realized it was not as simple as coaching emphasis. Marrone used to say that he didn't get upset about certain penalties because he didn't want to kill an aggressive players style. Anecdotally, it seems to me the less talented players seem to commit the types of penalties to which I referred. Just a feeling. One thing seems certain - the best coached teams don't necessarily have lower levels of penalties. [/QUOTE]