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Message: [QUOTE="ImperialOrange, post: 5303938, member: 362"] Thank you for taking the time to pull the numbers on this. My first thought after seeing this thread pop up was I'm not sure what our ceiling is with penalties given ACC ref bias. This year seemed like we had a lot more oddball penalties called for formations vs obvious false starts, holds, etc. We got called for things that other teams prior (I guess Jimbo can do it but Fran cant) in bizarre ways. Equally we had defensive linemen held constantly so only getting 4.5 calls pg in our favor is wild. Only calls we seem to get are blatant false starts, PIs and players drug to the ground where refs simply couldn't ignore it. [/QUOTE]