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Message: [QUOTE="orangehomer, post: 1755588, member: 151"] i'm actually not a person that likes to revel in the misery of others. but there is something about watching the exceptionalism that forms the psyche of pennstaters be not just challenged, but gradually torn away that is hard not to enjoy if you are remotely familiar with pennstate exceptionalism. joepa's greatest gift was this exceptionalism and the 'deal' he sold the great people of Pennsylvania, and as they say, "he giveth and he taketh away". penn state will be fine, because the lion share of the state's resources go to state college. but the mystique is gone, and the legacy is forever tarnished. they will never put that statue back up, unless it is guarded 24/7 by guys ready to whip some ass. just think of the memes that would surface if they put that statue back. [/QUOTE]