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Message: [QUOTE="jvbj01, post: 1044001, member: 442"] I want to know more about this culture. I am in no way a Penn State fan or sympathizer. I actually enjoy seeing them lose. I just want you to explain how this culture has not changed and how you personally know. Were you in the community before to experience this culture? If so, have you been back to get the vibe that the culture is still the same? The players in this terrible time are dead, in jail or being prosecuted. That being the case, how would you want the culture to be changed? Your response will probably be the death penalty, but face it, that didn't happen. Blaming recruits that have grown up Penn State fans for choosing Penn State is also ridiculous. [/QUOTE]