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Message: [QUOTE="Bayside44, post: 608730, member: 343"] I am about the same age as Mike Rice, and like IMatt said, those words (not rightly, but whatever) when we were kids were thrown around well before children were exposed to different lifestyles, unike today. I think to a person every kid took it as a lack of toughness. No one really knew any better. Not nice, but some words have multiple meanings. Personally, I think the guy should've been let go. Coaches are nuts, and that was nutty even for that fraternity. But to compare it to Penn State, etc to me is insane. [/QUOTE]