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[QUOTE="nzm136, post: 1987947, member: 2531"] Yes, some do. I think that Ohio State has about 50k students in Columbus. But not all public schools are bigger - even including some major ones. Clemson has 22.7k (as per Wikipedia). Syracuse has 21.3k + 2.8k at SUNY ESF + 1.5k at SUNY Upstate. We're arguably bigger. But honestly, whether or not you count the SUNY schools on the SU campus, Syracuse and Clemson are roughly the same size. Sure, Clemson has recruiting (and gameday) advantages that SU does not. My point isn't that SU = CU. It's that we aren't hopelessly small. We have the lowest alumni engagement with the AD in the ACC (as measured by percent of alums who donated), and we have some of the strongest school spirit in the nation when it comes to athletics (in general - not just football). You do the math. That's bad management due to turnover at the AD position. I firmly believe that the defeatist mentality of "we can't spend like everyone else, so we will never be good again" is wrong and it needs to go. I realize that I put some words in your mouth, but I'm addressing some of what you said and some of what others have said in the same post because I think that the sentiments go together. And for the record, schools like LSU aren't bankrolling their team w/ alumni donations. [/QUOTE]
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