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Message: [QUOTE="tipphill, post: 1991423, member: 4809"] i agree with most of what u say. however duke,northwestern, vanderbilt miami,baylor are similiar maybe even smaller in some cases and they have remained somewhat respectable. they said, their academics dwarf us. they also have prestigious medical and law schools. i am not sure what the correlation is or even if there is one. it does beg the question why do they have more relative success?? i know the chancellor is trying to enhance the law school which was in desperate need of an overhaul. i wish su would partner with suny in some area such as medical school. we partner with esf in some respect. i may be way off base in this but there does seem to be a remote connection as obscure as it seems. [/QUOTE]