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[QUOTE="Cusefan95, post: 5183620, member: 173"]
One of the many things Rose's defenders overlook is that betting for the Reds to win a particular game is as bad as betting on them to lose when you are the manager (which he was...).  One of the things about Rose as a manager was his mind boggling use of his bullpen; he would play some game in June like it was the seventh game of the World Series while others he would leave a starter in well past the point he should have been pulled.  Its kinda suspicious looking back on it now, although at the time everyone assumed he was just a dope of a manager.

My guess is baseball has some documentation to show he over used his bullpen in games he'd bet on.  They aren't going to bring it up publicly at this point - but anyone that is a new commish is going to see it and be told "this is on the list of reasons why he's never being allowed into the HOF".

Personally, If Rose gets in then there's literally no justification for anyone at all being left out if they have the stats to merit inclusion - Shoeless Joe, Clements, Bonds - everyone needs to be let in.  Because Rose is the absolute last man on the list of guys currently not in that should ever be allowed in the HOF.
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