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Message: [QUOTE="bpo57, post: 5185862, member: 1572"] About five years ago I went to a dinner with about 8-10 people where Rose was the guest of honor. We got to ask him a lot of questions and obviously he told stories and went over his many accomplishments. He said the one stat he was most proud of was the # of wins his team won with him in the lineup - 1,972, more than 100 wins above the next closest player. Also talked about his career average against several HoF pitchers- Drysdale, Gibson, Sutton, Marichal to name a few - all over .300. He admitted that Koufax owned him. Mentioned that his team won 16 out of 17 all star games. Ten times with 200 hits or more. Perusing his baseball reference page it's hard to make the case he was overrated. jmo [/QUOTE]