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Message: [QUOTE="Subob1, post: 3899939, member: 464"] I don't agree in practice. My former post college roommate was a high school AA in football, a lot of years ago. He played at SU and I casually mentioned on one occasion your premises to him discussing football recruitmen of the Ivies. He said ,"BS". He received in writing a financial package covering all costs to play football for Brown University He was a good student but probably wouldn't have been accepted without his football pedigree. Here is the thing. He was offered a full ride in writing and never applied to Brown University. They got his academic records through the school and just offered. Never a consideration of financial need at all. The IVY isn't that pure. Check the history of Ned Harkness at Cornell. They don't offer scholarships, they offer financial aid and there is a not lot of difference. [/QUOTE]