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Message: [QUOTE="sutomcat, post: 2578673, member: 27"] Illinois has a bad basketball program. They have won 2 NCAA tournament games in the last 12 years, the same number SU won a month ago (technically Syracuse won 3 NCAA games last month). Syracuse has been to 2 Final Fours more recently than the last time Illinois won an NCAA game. They have fired 2 HCs in the last 6 years and the new one is off to a horrendous start. If Bryce goes to Illinois, who knows who will actually coach him? Attendance is collapsing and has gotten worse since this article was written: [URL='https://www.thechampaignroom.com/2016/6/10/11899584/illinois-fighting-illini-basketball-attendance-numbers-state-farm-center']Illini experience worst attendance numbers since 1978[/URL] It is 627 miles from Winchester, VA to Champaign, IL. It is 364 miles from Winchester to Syracuse. Driving distances to away conference games would of course be dramatically lower in the ACC compared to the B1G. Recent Illinois Basketball History 2[URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006%E2%80%9307_Illinois_Fighting_Illini_men%27s_basketball_team']006–07[/URL] Bruce Weber 23–12 9–7 4th(T) NCAA Round of 64 [URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007%E2%80%9308_Illinois_Fighting_Illini_men%27s_basketball_team']2007–08[/URL] Bruce Weber 16–19 5–13 9th(T) [URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008%E2%80%9309_Illinois_Fighting_Illini_men%27s_basketball_team']2008–09[/URL] Bruce Weber 24–10 11–7 2nd(T) NCAA Round of 64 [URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009%E2%80%9310_Illinois_Fighting_Illini_men%27s_basketball_team']2009–10[/URL] Bruce Weber 21–15 10–8 5th [URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_National_Invitation_Tournament']NIT Quarterfinals[/URL] [URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010%E2%80%9311_Illinois_Fighting_Illini_men%27s_basketball_team']2010–11[/URL] Bruce Weber 20–14 9–9 4th NCAA Round of 32 [URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011%E2%80%9312_Illinois_Fighting_Illini_men%27s_basketball_team']2011–12[/URL] Bruce Weber 17–15 6–12 9th [B]Bruce Weber:[/B] 210–101 89–65 [B][URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Groce']John Groce[/URL][/B] (2012–2017) [URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012%E2%80%9313_Illinois_Fighting_Illini_men%27s_basketball_team']2012–13[/URL] John Groce 23–13 8–10 7th (T) NCAA Round of 32 [URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013%E2%80%9314_Illinois_Fighting_Illini_men%27s_basketball_team']2013–14[/URL] John Groce 20–15 7–11 8th (T) [URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_National_Invitation_Tournament']NIT 2nd round[/URL] [URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014%E2%80%9315_Illinois_Fighting_Illini_men%27s_basketball_team']2014–15[/URL] John Groce 19–14 9–9 7th (T) [URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_National_Invitation_Tournament']NIT 1st round[/URL] [URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015%E2%80%9316_Illinois_Fighting_Illini_men%27s_basketball_team']2015–16[/URL] John Groce 15–19 5–13 12th [URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016%E2%80%9317_Illinois_Fighting_Illini_men%27s_basketball_team']2016–17[/URL] John Groce 18–14 8–10 9th [B]John Groce:[/B] 95–75 37–53 [B]Jamall Walker[/B] (2017–2017) [URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016%E2%80%9317_Illinois_Fighting_Illini_men%27s_basketball_team']2016–17[/URL] Jamall Walker (Interim) 2–1 – – [URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_National_Invitation_Tournament']NIT 3rd round[/URL] [B]Jamall Walker:[/B] 2–1 -- [B][URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brad_Underwood']Brad Underwood[/URL][/B] (2017–present) [URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017%E2%80%9318_Illinois_Fighting_Illini_men%27s_basketball_team']2017–18[/URL] Brad Underwood 14–18 4–14 11th (T) Academics are a push. The B1G is of course a far inferior league to the ACC, the top basketball conference in the country. Bryce would of course be practicing against far better competition each day at Syracuse. He would of course receive far better coaching at Syracuse under a legendary HOF coach instead of this guy who struggling to beat Rutgers. The one thing Illinois has going for it is playing time. Given how awful their record has been, I assume they have no division 1 players and he would immediately be their best player. It comes down to whether you want to play a lot against bad players, not get better, make it really hard for your family and friends to watch you play, lose 80 games during your college career and do something boring after college or if you want to play against the best competition possible, have your family and friends go to lots of games, win 100 games in your college career, go to a Final Four or two and play pro ball afterwards. [/QUOTE]

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