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Message: [QUOTE="Orangezoo, post: 3841148, member: 237"] So one thing I think that may be starting to come out is that Gerry is a unreal competitor which we all saw first hand and replays for our younger posters. I'm sure Red and Griff want to win just as badly- but someone on this staff needed to say enough is enough and start kicking this thing in the ass. That was exactly what Hop did. Maybe GMac is finding his voice and his groove as a coach/recruiter. As a guy who simply loathes losing and mediocrity as though it's a crime- maybe he has had enough. I am not saying JB doesn't share that but really at 77 he needs his staff to be the workhorses. [/QUOTE]