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Message: [QUOTE="jordoo, post: 1424930, member: 569"] I understand your point and certainly there have been examples of 3/4 year guys who have done more for the program than some of the 1 and done guys. That being said I think you need a mixture of both unless like you said you are able to bring in 3+ 5 star studs year in and year out. That leads to the question's, do we have a stud offensive player coming in this year? Who is our stud offensive player coming in next year? This seasons team is basically 5 upperclassman a soph and our group of frosh. I expect the offense mainly orbits around G, Trev and DC2 even though I think our freshman class has a lot of potential. I just don't see any of them being that stud offensive player right out of the gate on offense. Malachi would be the most likely but he isn't a PG and we have G and Trev. I see this class as basically 4 guys that are all 3/4 year really good program guys with some potential to blow up and leave after soph seasons. To me they are the core that you add the stud guys to and have great success. In the 16/17 season its likely them Chukwu, Moyer and whomever else we bring in. Sure TylerR may still be here and that would be great but I don't see him as a transcendent offensive player even if he's getting around 15 a game as a senior. Could TylerL or Mal be that type of player in year 2? Its possible but if I'm the staff I'm not willing to count on it and I'm not sure that anyone coming back on next years squad has a diverse enough offensive game to consistently create shots for themselves or others when needed. Moyer is coming in and could be that type of player by then depending on how he develops over the next 16 months. Battle is a very skilled offensive player who with his size and handle can basically always get his own shot. Its possible we will have someone else who can do this on the 16/17 team but I don't think we can be sure we will. At this point I'd take Battle over Huerter in 16 and then worry about 17 when we get there. The college game is evolving very slowly but if you look at the very top teams you see multiple shooters and multiple playmakers with at most 1 offensive liability but general none. Even UK last season was bitten by not having enough offensive options or not developing the right ones during the course of the season. ND should have beaten them in the Elite8 but stopped attacking the basket when they were in the bonus. ND had scorers and shooters thats the direction its going and I think the NC's over the next 10 years will bare that out much like Duke did last season. Edit: Just to add I really like Huerter's game and he's exactly the type of player you want moving forward as they change the rules to free up the offense. I'm just betting on Battle being able to be an impact player from day one where I think Huerter is a complimentary player until he gets stronger and then a star. I wish there was some way to get both players or Huerter decides he'd rather prep and go to SU in 17 than go to Mich, ND, UVA in 16 and redshirt. [/QUOTE]

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