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Message: [QUOTE="Hoo's That, post: 2616025, member: 3609"] IIRC he started all this because of betting. One of his big things was to look at the teams like the other preview mags did and then go into a discussion about their performance against the spread which the others didn't. There were years under Welsh when our team had a good "real" record but was terrible ATS, some when we had a not-so-good "real" record but were like 10-1 ATS, and others when when we just had terrible records period. [/QUOTE]