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Message: [QUOTE="OrangePA, post: 1231330, member: 204"] You're preaching to the choir. This season for me was the worst - it was even worse than Greg Robinson's time here - for me. I was ready for great things in August and was blown away by how bad we were and how unprepared we were during the home opener. So, Dr. Gross does have a troubling football record, but in 2004 he was given no time to make a hire and in 2013 did what many do when a head coach suddenly leaves - he hired a top assistant to maintain continuity. Reasonable people can argue this one. [/QUOTE]