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Message: [QUOTE="HRE Otto IV, post: 5203223, member: 5685"] Just on geography, I agree. Technically neither is Pitt. But for CFB purposes WV has traditionally played the Northeastern schools. And they were Lambert Trophy eligible based on location. But then again so where VA schools. I don't think we should really count them, although JMU has a ton of Lamberts. VA Tech didn't really play the Northeastern schools prior to joining the Big East. They have more history with the South. UVA even more so. So I was including BC, UMass, UConn, Army, Buffalo, SU, Rutgers, Penn State, Pitt, Temple, Marshall (even bigger stretch), West Virginia (is close to Pittsburgh), Maryland, Navy, and I suppose now Delaware. Taking into account history, tradition, home attendance, road and bowl attendance I think SU is #3. But as you can see from that list, that is nothing to brag about. [/QUOTE]