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Message: [QUOTE="OttosShoes, post: 5329882, member: 10231"] Thing is, it's college sports at a very high level, hires that don't work out happen [I]all the time--[/I]median job tenure of a power five coach is like 4 years. I'm not sure Red gets another year here, but big picture, I think the reason this is all so tough is because we've been lucky enough to avoid experiencing the ups and downs of coaching transitions for several decades. I mean, as bad as things are, a lot of people are saying we should've booted Jim earlier and gone with an outside hire. Imagine we did just that in 2022, when Kenny Payne and Kyle Neptune were two of the big outside names on the market. Oof. [/QUOTE]