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Message: [QUOTE="upperdeck, post: 4399862, member: 474"] The issue is still gonna be if 3 sec teams end up 11-1/12-1 The winner is getting in. Then after that two of them have a top 5 win and a top 5 loss and a couple other top wins perhaps But for some reason Clemson going undefeated gets them in with a win over wake and SU when our wins over Clemson/Wake would actually be better If Wake/SU dont finish strong than what is Clemson going to hang its hat on either? Mich if it loses to OSU has PSU/ILL which is no more than any of the ACC would have UCLA would have Oregon/USC/Utah who all might be 3 loss teams as well TCU could run the table and have a ton of wins over 2-3-4 loss teams that are ranked. SU could have wins over wake/Clem/NC st and perhaps a 10 win Purdue. [/QUOTE]