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Message: [QUOTE="SWC75, post: 1921122, member: 289"] This year’s field for the Section III playoffs: The number before the school is their seedings. Afterward I have the won-loss record, the points for an against, the rankings by the New York State Sports Writer’s Association and by Max Preps, which has a state ranking and a national ranking, Then comes the Post Standard’s ranking within the section- they just rank large schools (A + AA) and small schools (B-C-D), and finally the number of Sectional titles the school has won. Then I posted all the confrontations between the teams in the field. CLASS AA 1-Cicero-North Syracuse 7-0 (208-56) NYSSWA #13 MaxPreps 5/928 PS#2 titles: None 8-Henninger 2-5 (187-255) NYSSWA NR (Not ranked) MaxPreps 229/7556 PS NR titles: 8 5-Auburn 5-2 (254-199) NYSSWA HM, (Honorable Mention) MaxPreps 85/3964 PS#6 titles: 5 4-Corcoran 4-3 (162-147) NYSSWA NR MaxPreps 115/4755 PS#7 titles: 6 3-Baldwinsville 5-2 (186-155) NYSSWA HM MaxPreps 38/2539 PS#5 titles: 4 6-Fayetteville-Manlius 4-3 (233-239) NYSSWA HM MaxPreps 177/6166 PS#9 titles: 2 7-Nottingham 3-4 (148-173) NYSSWA NR MaxPreps 132/5135 PS NR titles: 3 2-Christian Brothers Academy 6-0 (274-48) NYSSWA #8 MaxPreps 4/803 PS#1 titles: 10 CNS beat Henninger 20-15, Corcoran 27-0, Auburn 27-6, Nottingham 38-6 and Baldwinsville 20-7 CBA beat Baldwinsville 37-6, Henninger 42-6, Corcoran 34-16, and -M 41-0 Baldwinsville beat Auburn 47-22 and Nottingham 23-7 Corcoran beat Henninger 34-14 and -M 40-23 Auburn beat Henninger 58-25 and Nottingham 40-28 -M beat Henninger 59-39 Nottingham beat -M 24-13 Comments: CBA played only 6 games because their game against St. Francis Prep from the Buffalo area was canceled due to weather. The Brothers, a perennial power, had no close games at all. Corcoran came the closest at 34-16. They’ve played some bad teams but Baldwinsville, Corcoran and -M all had winning records. My Alma Mater, CNS, doesn’t have a great football history, (thanks to years of budgets being turned down). They made it to the sectional finals nine years ago and barely lost to eventual state champion West Genesee. This is by far the bets team since then. They scraped by Henninger 20-15 in their first game but have bene in control of their subsequent games, primarily through their defense. The Northstars aren’t as explosive as the Brothers (30ppg vs. 47), but I expect that a confrontation between them would be low-scoring. I am surprised that CNS got the #1 seed. How often is CBA an underdog in a Section III game? And every local, state and national ranking rates the Brothers higher. There’s a similar conundrum about Corcoran being rated ahead of Auburn but they will decide that on the field this week. It’s hard to see anyone beating them but Baldwinsville is always dangerous and Auburn may have their best team since they won the state title in 2006 – with a team with a worse record than this one, (4-3, 197-177). CLASS A 1-Whitesboro 7-0 (220-75) NYSSWA #3 MaxPreps 61/3267 PS#3 titles: 8 8-Fowler 1-5 (92-232) NYSSWA NR MaxPreps 492/12345 PS NR titles: 1 5-Carthage 4-3 (210-159) NYSSWA HM MaxPreps 164/5906 PS NR titles: 3 4-Jamesville-DeWitt 4-2 (167-103) NYSSWA HM MaxPreps 201/6722 PS#8 titles: 4 3-Indian River 5-2 (202-158) NYSSWA HM MaxPreps 141/5398 PS#10 titles: 2 6-Fulton 2-4 (132-226) NYSSWA NR MaxPreps 347/9888 PS NR titles: 1 7-Watertown 2-5 (144-207) NYSSWA NR MaxPreps 311/9381 PS NR titles: 1 2-East Syracuse-Minoa 7-0 (285-58) NYSSWA #14 MaxPreps 45/2809 PS#4 titles: 2 Whitesboro beat Fulton 38-18, Watertown 42-0, Indian River 42-14 and Carthage 16-0 ESM beat Indian River 21-7, J-D 36-7, Fowler 57-6 and Fulton 49-0 Indian River 36 Watertown 36-26 and Carthage 28-21 J-D beat Fowler 46-6, Watertown 13-7 and Fulton 49-20 Carthage beat J-D 34-27 and Fulton 49-24 Fulton beat Fowler 44-20 Watertown beat Fowler 43-16 Comments: Whitesboro is the historical powerhouse in this class but ES-M has become a powerhouse in its own right in recent years. They seem to win the section every five years: 2006, 2011 and…? Indian River and Carthage are always dangerous. J-D is better than the weaker teams but unlikely to beat the top ones. Then there are the weaker teams: Fulton and Watertown are less than mediocre and Fowler is pathetic. Their presence in a championship playoff is absurd. If AA and A were combined, as they should be, we might have seen a playoff with CNS, 7-0, CBA 6-0, Whitesboro 7-0, ESM 7-0, Baldwinsville 5-2, Auburn 5-2, Indian River 5-2 and J-D or Carthage 4-2. I guarantee you that would have been a competitive playoff, certainly moreso than what we’ll see in Class A. CLASS B 1-Cazenovia 6-1 (282-89) NYSSWA #13 MaxPreps 22/1769 PS#2 titles: 10 8-Skaneateles 4-3 (190-186) NYSSWA NR MaxPreps 213/7064 PS NR titles: 2 5-Central Valley Academy 4-3 (134-107) NYSSWA NR MaxPreps 130/5111 PS NR titles: 3* 4-Chittenango 5-2 (157-74) NYSSWA HM MaxPreps 203/6756 PS#8 titles: 3 *CVA is a merger of Ilion and Mohawk high schools and Ilion had won 3 titles, Mohawk none. The combined schools, which began in 2013, have yet to win a title. 3-Mexico 6-1 (248-94) NYSSWA #17 MaxPreps 30/2081 PS#4 titles: 0 6-Marcellus 4-3 (210-215) NYSSWA HM MaxPreps 258/8281 PS NR titles: 0 7-Oneida 4-3 (108-119) NYSSWA HM MaxPreps 154/5708 PS NR titles: 3 2-Homer 6-1 (196-103) NYSSWA HM MaxPreps 143/5424 PS#5 titles: 4 Cazenovia beat Mexico 28-18, CVA 28-0, Oneida 33-7 Mexico beat CVA 31-0 and Oneida 31-15. CVA beat Oneida 18-0 Marcellus beat Homer 37-29 and Skaneateles 24 Homer beat Skaneateles 22-15 Skaneateles beat Chittenango 19-16 Chittenango beat Marcellus 42-20 Comments: “HM” seems to describe this group. Defending state champ Cazenovia didn’t get much respect in the state pool, being ranked #13 thanks to a 1 point loss to Utica-Notre Dame, in a game the Lakers dominated until a late rally. They did get respect from Max Preps, who rates them above anybody in Class A and behind only the undefeated teams in Class AA. CLASS C 1-Canastota 7-0 (291-71) NYSSWA #3 MaxPreps 79/3872 PS#3 titles: 0 8-Thousand Islands 3-4 (243-143) NYSSWA NR MaxPreps 234/7678 PS NR titles: 0 5-Holland Patent 4-3 (215-120) NYSSWA NR MaxPreps 271/8656 PS NR titles: 4 4-Lowville 6-1 (247-103) NYSSWA #15 MaxPreps 131/5130 PS NR titles: 3 3-Little Falls 5-2 (189-108) NYSSWA HM MaxPreps 269/8650 PS NR titles: 0 6-Altmar-Parrish-Williamstown 5-2 (204-104) NYSSWA HM MaxPreps 187/6343 PS NR titles: 0 7-Tully 3-4 (180-205) NYSSWA NR MaxPreps 396/10749 PS NR titles: 0 2-General Brown 7-0 (303-96) NYSSWA #1 MaxPreps 70/3626 PS#1 titles: 6 General Brown beat Thousand Islands 22-20, APW 21-12 and Lowville 28-6 Lowville beat APW 20-13 and Thousand Islands 35-14 APW beat Thousand Islands 27-14 and Holland Patent 34-22 Canastota beat Thousand Islands 34-25, Holland Patent 36-0, Tully 48-13 and Little Falls 30-0 Little Falls beat Holland Patent 22-16 and Tully 32-12 Comments: This is all about General Brown vs Canastota. The Lions are the perennial power with 6 titles. They went to the state finals in 2010. The Red Raiders have never had a season like that. The Lions are ranked higher by the local sportswriter, the state sportswriter and MaxPreps. But the Red Raiders have done better against this field and they might actually have the better team. WE seem likely to find out in the finals. But Lowville has a formidable team and Thousand Islands and Holland Patent have strong point differential totals for teams with their records. Part of the reason for that is the presence of Phoenix in this Class. The Firebirds went 0-7, losing games by an average of 50 points. They made everybody the played look good. CLASS D 1-Onondaga 7-0 (283-93) NYSSWA #11 MaxPreps 208/6865 PS#6 titles: 6 8-Mount Markham 4-3 (193-129) NYSSWA NR MaxPreps 313/9403 PS NR titles: 3 5-Watertown IHC 4-3 (233-215) NYSSWA NR MaxPreps 330/9636 PS NR titles: 1 4-Frankfort-Schuyler 6-1 (213-148) NYSSWA #8 MaxPreps 255/8194 PS#9 titles: 1 3-Sandy Creek 5-2 (259-173) NYSSWA #20 MaxPreps 337/9717 PS NR titles: 2 6-West Canada Valley 6-1 (253-114) NYSSWA #9 MaxPreps 216/7090 PS#10 titles: 1 7-Bishop Ludden 5-2 (269-195) NYSSWA HM MaxPreps 332/9661 PS NR titles: 2 2-Dolgeville 6-1 (316-154) NYSSWA #6 MaxPreps 189/6380 PS#7 titles: 16 Dolgeville beat Mt. Markham 52-28 and -S 62-23 West Canada Valley beat Dolgeville 27-12 and Mt. Markham 20-7 Frankfort-Schuyler beat West Canada Valley 24-20 and Mt. Markham 22-6 Onondaga beat Sandy Creek 16-8, Bishop Ludden 40-20 and Watertown IHC 50-38 Watertown IHC beat Bishop Ludden 50-42 Bishop Ludden beat sandy Creek 55-49 Sandy Creek beat Watertown IHC 53-34 Comments: This is old home week for this division as a lot of former champions are back. Every team in this tourney has won a sectional championship and half the field has won a state championship. West Canada won Section III’s first every state championship in 1997 and then fell so far, (and in class D it isn’t that far), that one year they didn’t even field a team. Now they have the strongest team since they won that state title. Bishop Ludden won a Class C state title in 2007. Onondaga had a great run with Mike Hart and then Latavius Murray in their backfield in the last decade but haven’t won the section since 2010. Nobody’s won more sectional titles than Dolgeville but their last tile in 2014 was their only one since 2008. But they are all back know and knocking heads with each other. A playoff of the 16 best B, C and D teams would have included: 7-0 General Brown, Canastota and Onondaga 6-1 Cazenovia, Mexico, Homer, Lowville, Frankfort-Schuyler, West Canada Valley and Dolgeville 5-2 Chittenango, Little Falls, APW, Sandy Creek and Bishop Ludden Plus one 4-3 team, probably Central Valley Academy Many of those schools have a history of playing each other and switching among the classifications. I think it would be very competitive. [/QUOTE]

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