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Message: [QUOTE="SWC75, post: 126607, member: 289"] I'd love to have your persepctive on what's gone on at Ithaca in recent years. I watched them play for the national championship 7 times in 18 years and win three of them. It piqued my interest in small callege football, (although I already had some since my brother went to Hamilton). The last 20 years, they've generally been good and even made the playoffs a few times but they seemed to slide and this year they had a losing record. In fact, nobody in New York State seems to be a real power in the divsion any more. Meanwhile, Mount Union and Whitewater developed this stranglehold on the division. It's easy to just say it was coach- Jim Butterfield isn't there any more. Larry Kehres is a great coach, etc. But usually there are behind the scenes things that explain what's going on in college football. Why isn't Ithaca "Ithaca" any more and how did Mount Union and Whitewater get so powerful? [/QUOTE]