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Message: [QUOTE="rrlbees, post: 70130, member: 96"] Today, but we aren't talking about today. We are talking as early as 1977 until as late as 2007, maybe later. Joe had his full faculties during the 70's, 80's and 90's and was the face of PSU as well as #1 person at PSU. How do you think he was able to tell the BOT to go to hell and kick the Prez and AD out of his house in 2004 when they went there to tell him the BOT wanted him to retire? [/QUOTE]