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Message: [QUOTE="jncuse, post: 884279, member: 1969"] I think where the disconnect occurred is when I brought up Illinois as an example of a bias in the poll. My point was not meant to be a comparison of Illinois vs Pitt. It was to be a standalone point about some teams being in the top 25 due to biases - in line with the topic on poll bias. And Illinois is a good example because IMO they are only in the Top 25 because of their conference affiliation. I do not believe that Pitt should be in the top 25 prior to this week, or is being held back by bias and I never made those claims.. I brought up Pitt wins in my last post, to counter your point that Indiana was a quality win. With respect to Illinois only being in the top 25 due to conference bias. How were they ranked above Cincinnati last week... - Cincinnati only had 2 losses (none bad), and had wins over Pitt and at Memphis, [/QUOTE]