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Message: [QUOTE="rrlbees, post: 481160, member: 96"] To be fair, that statement is incorrect (I know it's not your statement). Below are our defensive rankings for the last 4 years under Shafer as well as his 2 prior years as DC at other BCS schools. I show it both for YPG and PPG because different people prefer one over the other. 2012 YPG - 47th PPG - 46th 2011 YPG - 64th PPG - 73rd 2010 YPG - 7th PPG - 17th 2009 YPG - 37th PPG - 81st 2008 (Michigan) YPG - 67th PPG - 84th 2007 (Stanford) YPG - 98th PPG - 65th 2010 was outstanding. Other than that, the other 5 years are average to below average. [/QUOTE]