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Message: [QUOTE="JeremyCuse, post: 5041439, member: 43"] 100%, this is why the unit (while doing fairly well man down) has to be modified to include more starters. As you noted once the penalty runs out things get real tricky real quick as you now have your 4th and 5th and even 6th pole on a teams starting attack and unfortunately clearing with this group has been worse then the starters. I know SU teams even under Desko were slow to recognize when change was needed but boy this is a no brainer. [/QUOTE]