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Message: [QUOTE="omniorange, post: 273353, member: 636"] And I think anyone who doesn't realize that part of the reason why SU got into the ACC over others is it's attempt to brand itself as NY's team (the state as well as the city, which we know the latter isn't close to being true) is as I said above, burying their head in the sand. Unless one thinks that being the kings of the 5th largest city in New York state and the poorest of those large cities somehow screams power conference team. Look on the bright side, the initial games against USC, PSU and ND could be busts and the series discontinued. Cheers, Neil [/QUOTE]