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Message: [QUOTE="kjb120, post: 3681518, member: 283"] Again though whatever good he does on offense which hasn’t been much is completely negated by his defense. Not to mention the horrible shot selection and zero ability to drive. I really don’t think either of our opinions will change, I’m just tired of mediocrity and below level basketball and we finally have a younger player that looks the part with some promise but instead are force fed Joe who what we see now is probably all he will ever be. [/QUOTE]