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Message: [QUOTE="jncuse, post: 4955061, member: 1969"] They are both outliers, and both rankings are probably showing some of the weakness they both have. But at a very high level we are getting crushed by Margin in NET, and we are getting boosted by being "deemed" to have the 2nd best schedule in the country by RPI. As you will see below those are two factors that the respective formulas might be over-sensitive too. ------- #1) I'll start with the NET - our NET is bad for two reasons. You are probably aware of this as it has been documented all over the place a) We didn't blow out bad teams as much as we should have. Canisius by 12, Niagara by 12, Colgate by 4, New Hampshire by 11. Other teams better than us in the NET crushed better than us. (This factor is totally irrelevant under RPI -- a win is a win) b) When we lose, we lose bad. Against bad for a metric that considers margin (for RPI a loss is a loss) #2) Now for the RPI. We are deemed to have the second best schedule under RPI. At a high level a 13-6 record when you have 2nd best schedule is pretty darn good. Hence we are #15. The RPI Formula is quite simple - 25% of your "score" is your winning%, 50% of your "score" is the winning % of your opponents, and 25% of your "score" is the winning % of their opponents. You can see a lot of the components are SOS based (75%) - sometimes it would cause strange things. You can also see the formula is purely W, and L based -- margin doesn't matter. So why is our SOS so high? You have to remember that RPI could be gamed (intentionally or unintentionally). Play teams at home that you should be able to beat but are still OK (If I remember the sweet spot was 100-170 at home, and anything below 300 if on the road-- avoid playing the really bad (sub 300) teams at home. Sometimes teams were helped by it, or hurt by it, purely unintentional. - We played some really good teams in OOC - We had that "unintentionally" really good schedule for RPI purposes .. note these are teams RPI's not NETS -- Cornell #39, Colgate #133, New Hampshire #147...we only had one really bad game #280, but it was not in the 300's either. As far as I can see it the key to our RPI - Our SOS is so high. - We lost to generally really good teams, which the RPI is forgiving on. - We win almost all our games against teams that are moderately good (Oregon, LSU, Pitt, BC, Miami, NC St, Cornell) [/QUOTE]

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