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Message: [QUOTE="tipphill, post: 1849648, member: 4809"] i will try to answer question. it has taken years of practice, but i have successfully achieved a tempered cautious optimism. having been through su football from 1960 til now we have had some great years and horrible decades. i saw ben s. retire in defeat from the lack of investment in the program. years of empty promises from the administration. sat through the maloney years(whom i thought was on the verge of turning the corner and i liked)mac,who did pretty well. pp who also suffered at the hands of the arms race, continued empty promises from the ad and lack of investmet in facilities. the horrible grob years (but i felt bad for him,but was a terrible coach)marrone who i thought was very good coach and called out the administration on investing in the program. scott s another great guy but to emotional to be a leader and stay focused. as a fan and former sth, i felt that the administration had for years disrespected the fan base and spewed the same bs. i still go to 2-3 games at su every year as well at the meadowlands when we play there. i am impressed with what appears to be a real investment in the program. i believe the chancellor to be solidly behind it, and more importantly, has a great vision for su growth academically. we need to move on stadium renovation very soon. i like babers from what i have seen. i like that he appears to be true leader, in command, mature, and does not come in with bravado, but rather what i call a steadfast confidence. the willful part comes in to play when u are worn out from years continued frustration. fyi being a fan of cautious optimism and not drinking the koolaide, or carrying a pom pom does not make a "bad" fan. my,(and others) 50+ years of support buying tickets, sitting through archbold etc gives me the right to my humble opinion. i feel your second paragraph is not accurate if you feel a difference of opinion equates to pissing in cheerios. however like me, you are entitled to your opinion by the way i am not an alum, but was a townie(born and raised on tipphill) and have lived out of state for the past 40 yrs. [/QUOTE]

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