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Message: [QUOTE="shu 49, post: 2519062, member: 3348"] I think watching TD and ED throw on video we are ok with what muscle they put on. No stiffness in shoulder mobility for either one. Most people have the old boxer mentality about no lifting or any muscle will slow u down. So very false. Muscle for the sake of muscle could but explosive lifting and proper shoulder mobility work also with extensive rotator cuff work will make the football jump off your hand. They both look great throwing the ball. I love the strength staff and trust them wholeheartedly. The best part of this for the strength staff is watching kids grow in ways that help them mentally and physically while teaching them hard work and revving up their will to win and fight. Miss my time with Cs high school lifting. My bonding time with my kid was great but also helping countless kids was just as good. Goo Suuuuuuuu. [/QUOTE]