Punting down 18 with 20 min left on 4th&2 @MD 46, 461 yds O already

[Millhouse]

4th and 2, MD 46, 20 min left, down 18, 7.4 yards per play up to that point.

I really think that might've been the dumbest coaching decision of all time. It blows the 4 pt FG out of the water.

 

[Eric15]

4th and 2, MD 46, 20 min left, down 18, 7.4 yards per play up to that point.

I really think that might've been the dumbest coaching decision of all time. It blows the 4 pt FG out of the water.

It was 10 minutes left, right?

 

[Millhouse]

It was 10 minutes left, right?

no, 5 min left in the 3rd

http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/playbyplay?gameId=400547817&period=0

it's also infuriating that it was morris's turn on 3rd and 2

 

[ClkWrkOrange]

It was 10 minutes left, right?

6 minutes left in the 3rd.At that point I stopped believing we were still trying to win.Down 3 scores and at that point in the game it is far from guaranteed you will even get 3 more possessions.

 

[djorange1989]

I am a fan of HCSS and our staff in general, but even a fan of theirs can't defend this. We punted several times in the 2nd half when we should have gone for it. It really looked like we were waving the white flag. Don't get it.

 

[Eric15]

My bad - for some reason I thought we also punted pretty late into the 4th quarter down 3 scores.

 

[Alsacs]

The punt on 4th and 2 in the 3rd quarter nearly made me leave early. It was a total fail call by SS. Any coach trying to win the game would have gone for it. Maryland couldn't stop our ground game and we punt on 4th and 2 on the UMD 42.

 

[TexanMark]

The punt on 4th and 2 in the 3rd quarter nearly made me leave early. It was a total fail call by SS. Any coach trying to win the game would have gone for it. Maryland couldn't stop our ground game and we punt on 4th and 2 on the UMD 42.

Yup...by punting there he basically said we can only win by Maryland giving us turnovers. His dumbest play call of his coaching time here.

 

[Full_Rebar]

Can we get some analytics-minded students to come up with a handy chart that tells you based on time/score/distance when to make that call?

 

[RF2044]

I'm not as big on the "never punt" bandwagon as you, Millhouse--but that was indefensible. Especially given how we were moving the ball, and how short of a distance it was. Absolutely needed to go for it there. Risk often results in opportunity, not just negative consequences.

 

[690West]

Can we get some analytics-minded students to come up with a handy chart that tells you based on time/score/distance when to make that call?

This is one my of favorite articles on the subject. If you've got a couple hours to spare, you should check it out. lol
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2006/never-punting

 

[690West]

4th and 2, MD 46, 20 min left, down 18, 7.4 yards per play up to that point.

I really think that might've been the dumbest coaching decision of all time. It blows the 4 pt FG out of the water.

This NYT 4th down-bot says the sport is just full of meatheads.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/05/upshot/4th-down-when-to-go-for-it-and-why.html?_r=0&abt=0002&abg=0

 

[690West]

Can we get some analytics-minded students to come up with a handy chart that tells you based on time/score/distance when to make that call?

4th down-bot.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/05/upshot/4th-down-when-to-go-for-it-and-why.html?_r=0&abt=0002&abg=0

 

[dasher]

4th and 2, MD 46, 20 min left, down 18, 7.4 yards per play up to that point.

I really think that might've been the dumbest coaching decision of all time. It blows the 4 pt FG out of the water.

total b.s on your part. Not using our time outs with 3 minutes or so to go against Nova was far worse. Why can't coaches get it in their head that you use your time outs on defense? Of course punting in that situation is dumb. But the timeout use is really, really dumb.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Can we get some analytics-minded students to come up with a handy chart that tells you based on time/score/distance when to make that call?

You don't even need a chart.

If you're in the opponents territory and have less than 4 yards to go for a first down, get the first down.

You can put some window dressing on that to change depending on time left, how many points you're down, etc. but the statement above works in most cases.

 

[Full_Rebar]

You don't even need a chart.

If you're in the opponents territory and have less than 4 yards to go for a first down, get the first down.

You can put some window dressing on that to change depending on time left, how many points you're down, etc. but the statement above works in most cases.

I don't disagree, but I was thinking that change would have to be done in baby steps. Plus, the chart gives the coach their standard press conference response when asked why/why not they went on 4th down. "Well Bud, that's what the chart said..."

 

[CusefanATL]

4th and 2, MD 46, 20 min left, down 18, 7.4 yards per play up to that point.

I really think that might've been the dumbest coaching decision of all time. It blows the 4 pt FG out of the water.

yeah really confused by that call