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QB numbers- Updated

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I've posted this for a couple of years now and have just updated it with Ryan Nassib's 2011 season:

I've been looking up some information on the performances of SU quarterbacks since McNabb to make some comparisons. Stats aren't everything and the QB ratings system is just a statistical opinion but here goes.
 
These are the career numbers and ratings of the quarterbacks who have played for SU in the last 12 seasons, ranked by their NCAA quarterback rating:
 
1) Greg Paulus 193/285 2024 yards 13TDs 14int rating: 132.60
2) Troy Nunes 362/618 4578 yards 32TDs 32int rating: 127.53
3) Ryan Nassib 497/841 5441yards 44TDs 18int rating: 126.43
4) Madei Williams 60/117 826 yards 4TDs 3int rating: 116.74
5) Andrew Robinson 175/345 2344 yards 14TDs 11int rating: 114.81
6) RJ Anderson 358/687 4698 yards 21TDs 23int rating: 112.94
7) Perry Patterson 456/962 5220 yards 25TDS 25 int rating: 107.54
8) Cameron Dantley 169/341 1856 yards 16TDs 8 int rating: 106.07
9) Joe Fields 21/58 347 yards 1TDs 3int rating: 81.81
 
The seasons, (with at least 100 pass attempts):
1) Troy Nunes 1999 95/161 1141 yards 11TDs 5int rating: 134.87
2) Troy Nunes 2000 94/154 1366 yards 8TDs 14int rating: 134.51
3) Greg Paulus 2009 193/285 2024 yards 13TDs 14int rating: 132.60
4) Ryan Nassib 2011 259/415 2685 yards 22TDs 9int rating: 129.91
5) Andrew Robinson 2007 154/292 2192 yards 13TDs 7int rating: 125.65
6) Ryan Nassib 2010 202/358 2334 yards 19TDs 8int rating: 124.23
7) RJ Anderson 2001 72/144 1123 yards 5TDs 2int rating: 124.19
8) RJ Anderson 2003 186/310 2164 yards 10TD 8int rating: 124.12
9) Troy Nunes 2002 115/198 1337 yards 8TDs 7int rating: 121.06
10) Troy Nunes 2001 58/105 734 yards 5TDs 6int rating: 118.24
11) Perry Patterson 2006 158/300 1865 yards 12TDs 4int rating: 115.42
12) Perry Patterson 2004 168/289 1851 yards 7TDs 10int rating: 113.00
13) Madei Williams 1999 55/110 742 yards 2TD 3int rating: 107.21 
14) Cameron Dantley 2008 121/251 1298 yards 11TD 5 int rating: 102.12
15) RJ Anderson 2002 58/134 899yards 4TD 8int rating: 97.55
16) Perry Patterson 2005 130/273 1504 yards 6TD 11int rating: 93.09 
 
I don't have all the numbers for 1987-98 but here are career numbers for the three great QBs we had during that time, along with their best seasons:
 
Donnie McPherson
career- 367/687 5812 yards 46TDs 26int rating:139.01
best season: 1987 129/229 2341 yards 22TDs 11int rating:164.30
 
Marvin Graves
career- 563/943 8466 yards 48TDs 45int rating: 142.37
best season: 1992 146/242 2296 yards 14TD 12int rating: 149.20
 
Donovan McNabb
career- 548/938 8389 yards 77TDs 26int rating: 155.09
best season: 1995 128/207 1991 yards 16TD 6int rating:  162.34
 
The fact that Troy Nunes has had the two best seasons as far as quarterback rating since 1999 and neither one was what I perceived to be his best year of 2002 illustrates that the quarterback rating system has its limitations. The stats that mean the most to me for a passer are TD passes and picks. That's where Donovan McNabb excelled, (note that his numbers and Marvin Graves' are basically identical except for those two stats, which are very different.).
 
I don't have all the Media Guides for 1987-98 and the SU website doesn't have all the numbers for those years but, as best I was able to determine, our quarterbacks from 1987-98 had 197 touchdown passes and 116 interceptions. Since then, (1999-2010), our quarterbacks have had 146 touchdown passes and 128 interceptions.
Update: Ryan Nassib’s 2011 season ranks with the best we’ve had:
1987 Don McPherson 22TD 11int
1996 Donovan McNabb 19TD 9int
1997 Donovan McNabb 20TD 6int
1998 Donovan McNabb 22TD 5int
2011 Ryan Nassib 22TD 9int
Where Ryan ranked behind these season was in yards per attempt:
1987 McPherson 10.2
1996 McNabb 8.3
1997 McNabb 9.4
1998 McNabb 8.5
2011 Nassib 6.5
Which in turn is because of his poor yards per completion:
1987 McPherson 18.1
1996 McNabb 15.1
1997 McNabb 16.9
1998 McNabb 13.6
2011 Nassib 10.4
Basically Nassib got his TD passes from the sheer volume of his completions, which overcame the fact that he couldn’t throw deep effectively.
  
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
The fact that Troy Nunes has had the two best seasons as far as quarterback rating since 1999 and neither one was what I perceived to be his best year of 2002 illustrates that the quarterback rating system has its limitations. The stats that mean the most to me for a passer are TD passes and picks.

Always enjoy the research SWC. Agree on the above thought re: QB rating. Any system that ranks a season with 8 TDs and 14 picks in 159 attempt as better than ... well ... basically any of the other seasons listed is a flawed stat.
 

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