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Message: [QUOTE="orangeinjersey, post: 1398933, member: 1961"] Not to be snarky but there is SOME evidence that COULD sway someone to lean more negative than positive, ie our qb play the last few years, our offense last year under Lester, our spring game this year, our 3-9 campaign last year. Quite honestly, I really don't see anything positive that should have our fan base being so optimistic. In another thread someone posted something along the lines of 6 or 7 wins is realistic. I would counter that 6 or 7 wins is our absolute best expectation. Realistic is probably 4 or 5 wins. See Vegas over under wins this season. [/QUOTE]