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Message: [QUOTE="Cusefan69, post: 5665726, member: 5764"] Some people in this thread are sharing different positions than they did in Qs transfer thread. I perused it quickly and I didn't see anyone blaming Red at the time. It seems like people are blaming him for that now given his overall lack of success. That doesn't mean perspective can't change but it sure seems more like a pile on Red. A question(s) to those blaming Red for Q. Is it your opinion that there is no player individual responsibility anymore? That no matter how many chances a problem player is given, the players have no responsibility for their actions or inactions? If the player is creating discipline issues, causing problems in and outside the locker room at what point if they don't fall in line do you get rid of them? I think Red deserves all the blame as coach for the overall direction and lack of success. I am not blaming him because he tried to better the culture and accountability. [/QUOTE]