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Message: [QUOTE="DoctorBombay, post: 861338, member: 626"] This^^^ You can still detect some sense of- "Syracuse...really"?, every time we win. The numbers from the OP show that we have, slowly but surely, turned around the train-wreck GRob Error and are clearly moving in the right direction. But until we whup some Big Boy programs on national TV, no one outside of the SU fanbase really cares. Just the way it is. And this type of classic, insecure, "We'll always be 2nd-Class" mentality is what will never change about some SU fans. Its doubly hard changing perceptions from the outside, but when some in our own fanbase minimize and diminish the slightest hint of progress...its just sad. Oh Lord JMHO [/QUOTE]