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Message: [QUOTE="cliftonparksufan, post: 1389222, member: 9"] I've always felt that the athletes with the most natural talent aren't the ones with the longest, most successful careers. A lot of times it's the guys who are the hardest workers and keep themselves in fantastic shape. They really treat their career as they should. There really isn't a huge difference in talent between the guys who are career 10 year backup NBA players and guys who can't get more than a cup of coffee. Look at Birdman. He has started 30 games in his career out of 656 games and has made $27 million bucks. He's done it but so many others have tried and failed. Rak graduated college in three years. That alone should tell the NBA something about how hard a worker he is. [/QUOTE]