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Message: [QUOTE="jordoo, post: 1419187, member: 569"] This is an excellent point. We had fans here on this forum saying he wasn't a high effort guy his first couple of seasons. He plays with either a stoic expression or a grimace in general. His running while elite speed wise for a guy his size simply looks effortless. We've watched him outrace the other teams big guys down the court for years but he generally looks like he's jogging briskly. Also I agree with the point about his conditioning. Its so good he doesn't look winded like other guys even when he plays 40 minutes and carries the load for us. Cavs fans are getting these impressions from a glance rather than an indepth look. [/QUOTE]