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Message: [QUOTE="jncuse, post: 1569526, member: 1969"] Agree with a few things you said (sort of). I had created a separate category for Cincy and Oregon... but I left them in both categories. So the group of 8 that we would certainly jump did not include them. Probably a logical approach. My conclusion made sense based on what I was thinking, but not what I was writing as I failed to go back and correct a few things. The reason I disagree that we will be 20th -- and following your logic that you presented -- there was indeed 8 teams between #13 and #25 that lost once. I figure we jump them so we are at least #17. Cincy, Oregon, and Vanderbilt are the question marks that put us somewhere between #14-#17. [/QUOTE]