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Message: [QUOTE="tbonezone, post: 2158344, member: 1028"] i throw a little weight to the guys who stuck around a few seasons. and i know that's old school now. carmelo was certainly transcendent and brought home our only title. but a lot of the early leapers i frankly have no real affinity for and will rank some old time stickers above them . thread is about what did you do here . not after you left early. that's why guys like louis orr,hakim warrick and john wallace deserve a nod. steady numbers and improvement so some young talented players with upside like say tyler lydon will never be part of this future conversation. [/QUOTE]