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Message: [QUOTE="blizz, post: 3053180, member: 4252"] Correct me if I'm wrong but I remember Guthrie and Whit solidified as starting Mike and Will going back to spring ball. They were obviously less committed to Army at the Sam which is why we ended up 4-2-5 out of fall camp, but I have a hard time stomaching that a 4-3 base install didnt happen until 7 games into the season. It's not entirely clear that's what happened, bit there was a marked shift in run defense when we started seeing 4-3 sets with Shy in the mix which didnt happen until after the Pitt game. Hindsight is 20/20, but dang...that seems so obvious. That said I'm also much more confident in going 4-2-5 now with either Stritz or Trill at the Star and getting caught with disguised power and counter sets. But it's all going to hinge on the personnel at the base 4-3 LB spots and how those guys perform. In many ways, that's our season. And yes, I know, this would be a great discussion on the fb board. Sorry Josh! [/QUOTE]