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Message: [QUOTE="Todd Gack, post: 1078840, member: 869"] You're making different, unrelated arguments. I responded to: "People here think way too highly of the number 44. Its a decent tradition that people over state." I grew up in Syracuse -- and plan to return -- but there's simply no reason to go there over Va Teach, Wake, etc. -- save for its tradition. One could literally shake the hand of -- arguably -- the greatest player to ever play the game. And it's just not me, a Syracuse fan, who'll say that -- Jim Brown highlights alone are better than that 10-minute piece Rutgers put together. I think we both agree not to hang on our laurels -- but "Syracuse" is a big reason Shafer is here (and why we're not UConn) and why he's working his ass off to remain. He's been giving the keys to a Caddie -- which he wants to make purr again. [/QUOTE]